A clip of someone who talks about the relations between men and women in Italy

Transcription: (Patrick Boylan speaking)

Well this... erm... talk is about men and women’s relationships.. in Italy, where I’ve been living for many many years and observing how the people conduct their relationships.  And as – I'm an American – as an American, it has been a bit of a shock ..

There are many Italies, all together.  There is the traditional Italy,  where a man is a man and a woman is a woman, which means that a woman is supposed to be an object that the man pursues... But if she's clever enough, she’ll get him to pursue her and even be dominated in order to dominate.   And... um-m-m.. there's an att-... therewz...   there used to be and still IS an Italian expression ehm... “l’uomo deve essere un po’ bastardo”  erm... a man should be a little bit of a bastard, he should treat me badly, and a that time, thirty years ago, that meant even slapping women! Just a moment: then, people slapped their children, too… men slapped each-other, ehm friends in the bar, wel... ehm.. so, slapping was a... ehhh.. general trait in the population, but... unfortunately, it... it also meant treating woman badly, so that they eh... enjoy their... subservient status.. On the other hand, if you read the ehh popular magazines of the time, the traditional view is that a woman will enjoy this, because she feels like a real woman being possessed, and if her husband or boyfriend or whoever does not satisfy her, she has the right to find a lover because she has to feel she is a woman, and so that’s the man’s job. So, treated badly, but satisfaction is guaranteed or else you go some place else. That’s the traditional view..
 
The modern view is something that is international, and umm inspired by MTV, so I'm sure the people who are listening to me now, know it already: you're supposed to be cool, and so you don’t really care... eh... what your partner does...  Ehh, in the old tradition, extremely jealous and ehhh  because there was idea of possession..  “I posses you and therefore I can spy on what you do, I have the right to look in your diary to see what you are doing against me”... Ehhm.. in the new.. with the new tradition, no! “Cool... my partner does what she wants, on vacation.. separate vacations.. everyone is free...”  And.. . ehhh... the idea that the relationship is built... built on a level that is higher than sex.. it includes sex, but that is just a  erm...ehhh... mmm... a part, that is not the dominant part but is a complement and  therefore... ehhh... is not... mmm... does not become the focal point of the eh  relationship.  hhhhhh!  Whether this attitude that we have just described now, will last or not.. I am curious to see..